Golly, I hate to ask, but the dude looks Catholic to me. Is he?
We're not immune, if anything, many of ours, especially the ones in daily rotation, are the worst poly cheap-applique things you could hope to see. At least the color is liturgically correct, if a little crude.
I'm actually a bit disappointed. The vestments actually look moderately tasteful. But why does Aunt Kate feel the need to dress up in a faux monastic alb?
Deacons wearing an 'Eastern Rite' style stole has been a fad for a wee while now, especially for those who hammer home what they call the distinctive deaconate vs the 'transitional' one.
What is worse for me is the priest with the surplice and stole!!! Red cassock from what I can see, but I thought LA had no Cathedral!!! That is just my spikiness speaking.
Can't wait to see what the rest of the HoB was wearing.
The alb looks like an Almy special, but my answer would be the one that I normally get from ladies that wearing an alb and amice negatively draws attention to their gender. At least it isn't that awful oatmeal color Dean Perry wore when Kate and I were at CDSP.
Augsutine OP. Dang the Ordinis Praedicatorum!!! My good lady had just said, "Well dear there is that trivia question about the shortest verse in the Bible."
Don't those deacons know where the stoles are supposed to go? This isn't the Ambrosian Rite here!
The deacons are wearing stoles in the Byzantine manner, as worn by all deacons in the Greek church and by archdeacons and protodeacons in Slavic churches. This stole is common in the Episcopal Church and is permitted by the rubrics. My only objection is that it is usually worn over a white or off-white or simply plain dalmatic. There is too much fussy-ness in the LA vestments.
And Katharine is wearing a Slabbinck alb that is common in Europe. At Notre Dame Cathedral all the liturgical ministers, including the cardinal archbishop, wear this alb.
Ormonde Plater is right about the diaconal stoles. They are in the design of the double-orar, which was originally two deacon's stoles sewn together and awarded to archdeacons and protodeacons, and remains so today, although in some later designs, it is a single stole of double length. The modern practice of the Greek church, (as well as those churches that slavishly ape every Greek innovation), now awards them to all deacons from the point of ordination. In the Byzantine Rite, they are worn over the dalmatic/stikhar just as in the photograph above. In that sense, while the propriety of appropriating Byzantine-style stoles may be questioned, at least they are consistent in wearing them according to Byzantine custom.
Those LA ordination stoles and dalmatics are the ones that the diocese's transitional deacons wear at ordination. I am incompetent to comment further since I graduated from ETSS.
LA has a "pro-cathedral", a beautiful romanesque church built by the Doheny family that also built the Catholic church across the street; the cathedral center has been effectively demoted.
Anyway, the pro-cathedral is very "Affirming Catholic" and takes its cues from St. Gregory of Nyssa in San Francisco. The most ridiculous thing (to me) about both places is their odd use of "Attend!" or "Let us be attentive!" borrowed from the Greek rite.
Its a shame the building won't be going to the Ordinariate. It would be great if the first anglican ordinariate congregation in the archdiocese were set up in St. Vincent's across the street. One can hope.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Think of the possibilities! "David Danced"...or "Onan spilled"
Oy Gevalt Monika!! Warn us first!
Actually I kinda like "Peradventure, he stinkith" myself.....
KATHERINE LITIGATED
I hope he does not have a Lenten one that says, "Jesus Wept."
How about "Aaron puked"?
This guy is probably thinking to him self "It was a good idea at the time..."
Sarah Laughed...and (in this case) with good reason...along with the rest of us.
Even aside from the main concept, could the person who made it not remember the shape of a capital R?
Golly, I hate to ask, but the dude looks Catholic to me. Is he?
We're not immune, if anything, many of ours, especially the ones in daily rotation, are the worst poly cheap-applique things you could hope to see. At least the color is liturgically correct, if a little crude.
Here's a couple of the Glasspool ordination photos:
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/hires-image/LAConsecration1_lg.jpg
Don't those deacons know where the stoles are supposed to go? This isn't the Ambrosian Rite here!
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/hires-image/LAConsecration2.jpg
I'm actually a bit disappointed. The vestments actually look moderately tasteful. But why does Aunt Kate feel the need to dress up in a faux monastic alb?
Ex aedibus:
Deacons wearing an 'Eastern Rite' style stole has been a fad for a wee while now, especially for those who hammer home what they call the distinctive deaconate vs the 'transitional' one.
What is worse for me is the priest with the surplice and stole!!! Red cassock from what I can see, but I thought LA had no Cathedral!!! That is just my spikiness speaking.
Can't wait to see what the rest of the HoB was wearing.
The alb looks like an Almy special, but my answer would be the one that I normally get from ladies that wearing an alb and amice negatively draws attention to their gender. At least it isn't that awful oatmeal color Dean Perry wore when Kate and I were at CDSP.
Augsutine OP. Dang the Ordinis Praedicatorum!!! My good lady had just said, "Well dear there is that trivia question about the shortest verse in the Bible."
Alasdair
Yeah, the Glasspool thing turned out to be a major disappointment, didn't it?
Regarding the Glasspool photos, what's with the pink hospital-style ID bracelets?
Don't those deacons know where the stoles are supposed to go? This isn't the Ambrosian Rite here!
The deacons are wearing stoles in the Byzantine manner, as worn by all deacons in the Greek church and by archdeacons and protodeacons in Slavic churches. This stole is common in the Episcopal Church and is permitted by the rubrics. My only objection is that it is usually worn over a white or off-white or simply plain dalmatic. There is too much fussy-ness in the LA vestments.
And Katharine is wearing a Slabbinck alb that is common in Europe. At Notre Dame Cathedral all the liturgical ministers, including the cardinal archbishop, wear this alb.
I want to hug you for starting this blog.
I'm ROFL'ing!
Sarah wept.
You boys need to get a life.
Really.
Don't you have some acolytes to train or hospital visits to make?
Really.
Oh, BTW, that's Jep Steit, dean of the Cathedral in Boston, MA.
Ormonde Plater is right about the diaconal stoles. They are in the design of the double-orar, which was originally two deacon's stoles sewn together and awarded to archdeacons and protodeacons, and remains so today, although in some later designs, it is a single stole of double length. The modern practice of the Greek church, (as well as those churches that slavishly ape every Greek innovation), now awards them to all deacons from the point of ordination. In the Byzantine Rite, they are worn over the dalmatic/stikhar just as in the photograph above. In that sense, while the propriety of appropriating Byzantine-style stoles may be questioned, at least they are consistent in wearing them according to Byzantine custom.
I can't possibly outdo Monika...I'm in awe....How about "My Brother Esau Is An Hairy Man"? Probably too long, but it's supposed to be *badly* done.
Those LA ordination stoles and dalmatics are the ones that the diocese's transitional deacons wear at ordination. I am incompetent to comment further since I graduated from ETSS.
LA has a "pro-cathedral", a beautiful romanesque church built by the Doheny family that also built the Catholic church across the street; the cathedral center has been effectively demoted.
Anyway, the pro-cathedral is very "Affirming Catholic" and takes its cues from St. Gregory of Nyssa in San Francisco. The most ridiculous thing (to me) about both places is their odd use of "Attend!" or "Let us be attentive!" borrowed from the Greek rite.
Its a shame the building won't be going to the Ordinariate. It would be great if the first anglican ordinariate congregation in the archdiocese were set up in St. Vincent's across the street. One can hope.
goin' Catholic
Roy's Blog said: This guy is probably thinking to him self "It was a good idea at the time..."
Well, he would be wrong.
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